Episode 8: How Jesse Hill and the Slayer1Bull inspired Slayer's ArchAngel elk call

When we recorded this podcast in fall 2021, we didn't know we were talking about Jesse Hill's last hunting season.

Richard Tilton is one of the many hunters who Jesse charmed with his outgoing personality, his jokes and stories, and his huge heart. Jesse let others know how much they mattered — and hunting with Richard during elk season in 2021 was no different. Jesse, wielding the Swagger Bugle Tube, made history by calling in the first bull ever killed with a Slayer handle. Richard took down the now-infamous Slayer1Bull with Jesse's loud, aggressive bugling. 

After Jesse's passing at age 46, we devoted the ArchAngel acrylic handle — a call that can truly make a difference in an elk hunter’s success — to Jesse and all hunters whose memories we hold close. We know we'll be killing even more bulls this season with the ArchAngel, and with Jesse watching over us.

In this episode of The Slayer Hunting Podcast, Richard and Slayer Calls CEO Bill Ayer talk about how Richard and Jesse met while elk hunting, and the story of how Jesse called in the Slayer1Bull during Idaho's archery season. 

Be a part of Jesse Hill's story:

- ArchAngel acrylic elk call, the game-changing bugle tube dedicated to Jesse
- Swagger Bugle Tube, the call Jesse used to bring in Slayer1Bull
- Share your memories of meaningful hunters in your life with the Slayer community

Get ready for elk season with these resources:

- Archery elk hunt: 7 tips for a first-timer
- 4 hot weather elk hunting tips
- Elk hunting tips for beginners: The do's and don'ts
- You've located a bull. Now what?
- Tips for choosing your first elk call

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Transcript

Bill Ayer:

Hey all, welcome to the Slayer podcast. I'm your host Bill Ayer, owner of Slayer Duck Calls, a company founded on family heritage, unrivaled quality craftsmanship, and an uncontrollable obsession for hunting. Let's get to it.

Bill Ayer:

All right. We're here with Richard Tilton on the Slayer podcast. Hey Richard, how's it going?

Richard Tilton:

Doing well. How are you?

Bill Ayer:

I'm doing pretty good. Can't complain. So yeah, I just wanted to introduce Richard Tilton. He was the first person to kill a bull with a Slayer bugle. So I think they, Richard, did they name your bull the Slayer One Bull or something like that?

Richard Tilton:

Yeah. Slayer One Bull right off the bat. It was pretty cool, man. It was, yeah, Jesse threw it out there, says, hey, this is Slayer One Bull. And I was like, all right, that's the name.

Bill Ayer:

Yeah, so it will forever be the Slayer One Bull. So that's pretty cool. So yeah. So Rich, why don't you tell us a little bit about you, where you live, and what you do for a living and how long you've been elk hunting and all that good stuff.

Richard Tilton:

All right. So let's see. I live in Boise, Idaho. I was born and raised here. For the most part I've been welding my whole life. I went to school in Montana for quite a few years and to try to get away from welding and that didn't happen. So came back into welding. When I turned 18, I worked for an outfitter for a year, learned some things. I grew up kind of elk hunting with my old man and my uncle and they're friends. And when I turned 18, I kind of wanted to learn a different way, I guess you'd say. We always drove around in the truck and hopefully they crossed the road kind of deal growing up. So when I turned 18, I got an uncle that lived in Chalis and he got me hooked up with an outfitter, Horse Creek Outfitters. So I went and worked with them for a season and I learned a lot, man. I think we were out in the Frank Church for, I would say five months, something like that.

Bill Ayer:

Oh, wow.

Richard Tilton:

Yeah. It was awesome. I loved every second of it. First time being away from home, it was a little tough, but being up in the woods and seeing the wildlife. And it was pretty cool. And so, yeah, I did that and came back here and I hunted. I was more of a weekend hunter up until I would say my mid-twenties actually. I never really quite got into it, because I was into other stuff. I was into skydiving and rock climbing and stuff like that. And so, I think about the time I hit my late twenties, I really started digging elk hunting and I wanted to learn to call.

Bill Ayer:

Were you always a bull hunter or were you a rifle hunting?

Richard Tilton:

I was always a rifle guy, but I would actually go out with friends and bugle for them. I liked the bugle. I had one of those Primos. I call it the straw.

Bill Ayer:

Yeah. Yeah.

Richard Tilton:

One weekend my, I had a buddy and he's like, hey, let's go out. Let's go out. And so, we went out and he had a camera, and a couple other friends tagged along and I bugled in like nine bulls in one day. I mean, 20 yards. Got most of them on camera, a lot of pictures of them. And so, I went back to work the next day and all the guys at work were archery hunters and kind of showed them pictures, showed them videos. And they're like, dude, why aren't you archery hunting?

Bill Ayer:

Yeah. Where were you? Can you tell me exactly where?

Richard Tilton:

I can't do that. Good try though.

Bill Ayer:

Yeah.

Richard Tilton:

Yeah. And so, I kind of got hooked up with some buddies through work and they kind of sent me out to an archery shop here in town, and yeah, I just kind of started learning on my own. They all kind of quit work. And so, I kind of just self taught myself archery. I'm not the greatest shot. I'm not the greatest archery hunter, but I have a lot of fun doing it, and yeah. I mean, I solo hunted for quite a few years doing that.

Bill Ayer:

How old are you now?

Richard Tilton:

I am 36.

Bill Ayer:

Okay. So you're hunting about what? Bow hunting last six years?

Richard Tilton:

Yeah. I've been archery hunting since 2017.

Bill Ayer:

Oh okay. I got it.

Richard Tilton:

When I picked up my first bow. I had one guy go out with me one year, and then we didn't see a whole lot. So I just been kind of doing it solo. I'm the kind of guy, if I jump into something, I jump in both feet. And I started doing everything I could possibly do to learn how to do this. I've always loved the mountains. I've always loved hunting in general. Bear, deer, elk. I was determined to learn how to elk hunt. I didn't really know anybody that was, I guess you'd say as good as you know those guys on YouTube. Ryan Lampherts and Corey Jacobson and all those guys. But I always wanted to be kind of like that knowledge. So I went out, and man, I tried and tried and tried. Wasn't until last year I met Jesse Hill. That guy just, he changed the game for me, you know?

Bill Ayer:

And you just met him randomly up hunting, didn't you?

Richard Tilton:

Yeah. All right. So, it was kind of funny, I was actually up there the day before he was. I was up by myself. I was waiting for a buddy to get up there. So I went up for the day and I did this humongous, like 12 mile loop. I got into one bull on that 12 mile and I screwed it up, completely screwed it up. And so, I hiked some more and right at the end of the day, I'm coming off this hill and I'm right below the hill, which is a big hill, is you can see the camp. And so, I was just kind of glassing for deer mostly at the end of the day there. And I see this humongous camper come in and the guy parks right in front of my camp, my tent and my truck. And he is there for like 20 minutes. I'm like, are you kidding me? What's this guy doing? So I was like, well, well, hopefully he moves when I get down there.

Richard Tilton:

So I ended up hiking. It took me like 45 minutes to get off this mountain, down to my flat there. And by the time I got down there, he was backing into his spot and everything, and kind of spark, you know, it's Jesse, he sparks up a conversation with anybody. He's just a super friendly guy that way. So he starts talking to me and I start talking to him and I told him, I was like, I saw one bull and couldn't really get on it. And so next thing you know, he's like, well, why don't you come over and have some grub, eat some dinner. And he's like, I'm waiting for another guy to get up here. And so, I told him, I was like I got to go make a phone call, got to go call my kid, and got to call my brother real quick. And so, I left for like an hour. Came back and all of a sudden his buddy was up there, and Tommy Sessions, man, heck of a caller.

Bill Ayer:

I haven't heard Tommy call, but Jesse says he's

Richard Tilton:

You haven't heard Tommy?

Bill Ayer:

One hell of a caller.

Richard Tilton:

He is amazing. He called my bull in last year. Yeah, he's a super good dude. And his calling is top notch, you know? I mean, he's got one of the best buckles I think I've ever heard it. It's amazing. It's just a natural thing for him. He's lucky that way. And I actually wouldn't say it's luck. It's still, he's good.

Richard Tilton:

Yeah. They invited me to go elk hunting with them. Next thing I know, my buddy shows up and I'm like, hey, we're going to watch a movie with these guys, but we're going to go elk hunting with them tomorrow. Yeah. It was kind of a spare. It was random. It was kind of cool how I met him. I'm real grateful for it, you know? Yeah.

Bill Ayer:

And that's last year, right?

Richard Tilton:

Yeah, that was last year.

Bill Ayer:

Okay.

Richard Tilton:

I mean, the guy, I ended up hunting with him for the entire next week as well. Him and I kind of kicked it off really good. He started bugling, I mean, right off the bat the next day, him and Tommy start bugling and all of a sudden a solid 330 bull answers off right off the truck. And we ended up chasing that one for a while and never got to it. Just the wind was not right. But yeah, I couldn't believe it. Like right off the bat, that never happens to me. And it was pretty cool. I mean, and the biggest bull I've ever seen in the wild, but yeah.

Bill Ayer:

So did you guys ever kill [inaudible 00:08:57]?

Richard Tilton:

We ended up hunting the rest of the day with him. We did like eight miles. Kill? Oh, so my buddy ended up shooting a young bull that day. We went out. It was basically a calf is what he ended up shooting, but we called in lots of bulls. Jesse got me drawn on a pretty good bull, middle of the day, 60 yards. I just didn't have a shot, but yeah. These guys, they changed the way I elk hunt. That's for sure. Real aggressive. Different kind of style or elk hunting. Was really cool.

Bill Ayer:

When you say aggressive, tell us a little bit about that. I think I'm probably in the same boat. I play a pretty conservative game when it comes to elk hunting with a bow. I know I've duck hunted a lot with Jesse, and I know he's very aggressive as far as his calling and the way that he goes about it. So I'd be curious to see what your thoughts are and how you were doing it. And when you say aggressive, how they were doing it.

Richard Tilton:

So I used to get on anything I can think of to try to learn how to call ,the right way to call. I won't name any programs, but a lot of guys out there on YouTube and they have little memberships and deal. But when I started hunting with Jesse and I told him I was like I'll call, and I don't do it very loud. I try to be the quiet guy and it's kind of, I don't know, I just didn't, you know, I wasn't... The best way he kind of put it is when he told me he's very aggressive, I didn't quite understand. 

Bill Ayer:

What do you mean aggressive? 

Richard Tilton:

The way he put it, and he's like, you've been to a bar I'm like, yeah, I'm 30 something years old. And he is like, if you walk into a bar, how many people turn their heads? And I'm like, not very many. I'm not a big guy. I'm pretty average, 5' 10". And I'm like, not very many. And he says, okay, if Arnold Schwarzenegger walks into a bar, how many people are going to turn their heads? And I'm like, everybody. He says, be Arnold Schwarzenegger on your caller. He says, be aggressive, be loud, look for a fight.

Richard Tilton:

So, I thought about that and I kind of watched him and Tommy how they call and they are loud. They are screaming. I mean, they're lip balling. And it's every hundred yards. I wasn't used to that. I was used to giving that locator bugle. Nothing? Okay. We wait a half an hour, 45 minutes. And these guys are every hundred yards. They're screaming their heads off, they're walking through the hills kicking rocks and breaking branches. And I mean, they sound like a herd going through the woods. And so, it was different. It was a lot different than what I was used to.

Bill Ayer:

Yeah. That's awesome. All right. Well, let's kick into this year. So tell us, you know, so it sounds like you might have hooked back up with Jesse. Did you guys hunt the same camp that you're at?

Richard Tilton:

Yeah, we did. Yep. We hunted the same camp. They were up there for about three days before I got up there. When I got up there, they didn't hear a whole lot. They hunted some different areas. And so, I kind of mentioned like, hey, let's go back to the ridge that I shot my bull last year on. That Tommy called in for me. And so, they were kind of out of ideas I think. And they said, all right, let's try that ridge.

Richard Tilton:

So we get the next day, we get on this ridge, you got to go up and over the summit kind of. It's like a 500 foot elevation climb. And then it's probably three quarters of a mile in. And you go up and over and you just drop way down. You drop like a thousand feet down, get into this really gnarly hole. Well, as we were dropping down, Tommy was below Jesse and I. I mean, first light, Jesse and I, we hear Tommy bugle. We thought he was just trying to bugle. And we look over and coming down the saddle on the other side is a pretty, I would say, eight or nine cows. Next thing, we hear a bull down bugling down in the bottom.

Richard Tilton:

So, obviously we were into them already. We found some elk. Right off the bat, first thing in the morning. But the thing is, you got to go down to the bulls and the thermals were going that way. We hanging out for, I would say at least an hour and a half wait, because we were on the north facing slope. The wind just would not change for us. Those thermals just kept going down. And so we ended up hanging out.

Richard Tilton:

And after a little while we kind of started to push the envelope a little bit. We kind of got bored, I think. And Jesse and Tommy decided, okay, let's go down a little bit. We got into some pretty gnarly brush. Tommy was kind of hung out about 50 yards or so behind Jesse and I. Jesse and I kind of hung out about 50 yards apart. We had elk right below us. We had a spike come running out in front of us and he came running through, and then a couple cows behind him. There was no shot on anything. And this year, I was kind of determined to, I was going to shoot a branch antler bull. Last year they called the spike in for me last weekend, shot the spike. And so, they kind of, I guess they looked at me and I was like, no, I'll spike, you know? And they saw the cows. And so, I told them, no, I'm not going to shoot a cow.

Richard Tilton:

So these bulls, or these elk, come running through and we had no shot, it was so thick. And so, we kind of regathered a little bit and decided that we're going to go down a little bit further and chased some more of these bulls. And man there was, on our way down, there were rubs everywhere. Some of the biggest and tallest rubs I've ever seen. I mean, 16 inch trees in diameter were rubbed off eight feet up. It was amazing.

Bill Ayer:

That's awesome.

Richard Tilton:

Yeah, it was cool. I kept taking pictures of them and Tommy's yelling at me like, hey, let's go. And I'm a picture guy. I like to take pictures. And so, we get going down and we kind of get on some bulls again, but they just, they aren't coming up. You know what I mean? I'd say within a hundred yards of us, but they will not just come up out of the bottom down there. But they're answering, which is good. That's more than Tommy and Jesse's heard all weekend. It was a good four hours into the hunt. And I think it was probably getting around about 11 o'clock, and we decided we were kind of getting hungry and we were chasing these bulls, but they were going down, we were going down. They just wouldn't come up to us and we would run into some cows every so often.

Richard Tilton:

And so, we decided to eat some lunch. I think Jesse knows I don't sit well. I get antsy once I start sitting down, unless I'm napping. And he was pretty tired. Tommy was pretty tired and I wasn't. They've been hunting for three days, I haven't. Jesse told me, hey, why don’t you go over there and we'll do some calling and something comes in, you'll have first shot at it, you know? And I was like, okay. It's kind of like getting rid of your kid. Go walk through that timber or something.

Bill Ayer:

Go throw some rocks.

Richard Tilton:

Yeah. Pretty much. So I was over there for about, I would say 45 minutes and they were snoozing. And I look over and I see a bull coming down the hill about probably about 400 yards away, 300 yards away. I could see it's a branch antler bull, but I couldn't tell how big. It was decently wide, but not huge. So I run over to Tommy, because I didn't bring my binos, grabbed his binos by that time, the bull ducked into the timber. And so, we decided, okay, we woke Jesse up. And kind of got everything going. We knew there was that bull and another bull over there. So we decided, let's go after these guys. It was thick, some thick timber man. It was real thick and we got up in there and we got calling, and there was this small ravine. We were right on top of this finger in this drainage. And this bull would not come past this little ravine or this drainage, this creek bottom.

Richard Tilton:

We kind of hung out and we're sitting there calling at him and he's bugling right back at us and he's chuckling at us. And Tommy's giving him chuckles and bugling right back at him, lip [inaudible 00:17:28] and Jesse's to the left of me. I mean, we're right next to each other. We're looking across this ravine. I've got an arrow knocked because we're pretty sure something's going to come in, but we're not sure when. Next thing you know, Jesse's like bull, bull, bull. And I look over and there's this bull coming in silent. It's to the left of me, which is right in my way where Jesse's at. So, all Jesse says is kill that bull. Kill that bull. And I didn't have time to yard it, do a yardage on it or nothing. And-

Bill Ayer:

Did Jesse lay down or something?

Richard Tilton:

Nope. So Jesse leans back. I draw back and I've got a pretty quick shot. And so, I draw back and Jesse thinks that bull is about 50 yards and he yells 50 at me. And I'm like, no. Thinking in my head, that's not 50 yards. So I pull back, I get on the bull and I'm about three inches from his nose, my broadhead. And you see Jesse, he just kept thinking don't sneeze. Don't sneeze. And I draw back, I get on the bull. I put it right at 35 yards and I don't have a shot at a broadside. It's looking directly straight at me. And I'm pretty good at judging yardage, and I'm a pretty decent shot. So I'm like I can hit that. So I center punch him.

Richard Tilton:

I normally don't take that shot, but I was pretty confident at the time just because that shot can go very bad very quickly. But I was pretty confident and I had the shot and so I took it. And released and that thing perfectly, I mean, it drilled him. Jesse looks at me and just, nice shot. And the thing runs off, you know? And he looks back at Tommy and we thought it was a five by five, is what we thought. All we had really time to do was notice it was a branch antlered bull. And that's all I was after. Jesse and Tommy, they go for the big boys. They've shot a lot of elk in their years. I haven't. So I kind of just wanted a branch antler.

Richard Tilton:

So Tommy comes down to us, man. We give each other knuckles. Jesse gives me a hug, man. I'm stoked. And then Jesse's got this key hearing, man. I've never met anybody that can hear like he can, and he hears it gurgle a little bit. And then he looks at me and he says, that thing just fell. He says, that's a dead bull. I'm welding my whole life and working in fab shops. So my hearing isn't the best. And I'm like, you sure? And he is like, yeah, let's go get your bull. So we walk up to where I shot it, him telling me, go ahead. And I'm kind of looking for my arrow, thinking it might be right in there. And so, they go ahead of me and the mountain is just sprayed with blood. It's just painted red. And it's the good colored blood. And we get looking, I think we walked maybe 25 yards.

Bill Ayer:

Oh wow.

Richard Tilton:

And there he was. Tommy looks at me and he just gets this big grin on his face. And then Jesse looks at me, and I'll never forget, they were so happy for me. There he was laying there and I think he went 15 yards and then rolled five. It was a perfect shot. We never found the arrow. We think it was in his intestines. We're not too sure. It was in his guts or something, but that bull that they had bugling, it was still bugling. So Tommy and Jesse were like, hey, you good? And I'm like, yeah, I'm good, man. Go get your bull.

Richard Tilton:

So they kind of took off and I kind of went to work on it. They came back about 15 minutes later. Yeah, and they kind of helped me, we quartered the rest of the thing out and took some pictures. And that's when Jesse was like, this is the Slayer One Bull. I'm like Slayer One. And I was like, what do you mean? He's like, it's the first bull killed with the Slayer tube. And I was like, oh, I was all stoked. I was real excited. I was like, sweet man.

Bill Ayer:

It's funny, because there were some really good hunters out there with Slayer bugle tubes. We had a couple guys from Kryptek using it down in Arizona too. In about four days after you killed your bull, Butch killed a bull using the Slayer call down in Arizona. Nice, probably like 320, 340 bull.

Richard Tilton:

Oh wow.

Bill Ayer:

But yeah, so you beat the good guys that have been elk hunting for a lot of years and killing a lot of bulls. You beat them to him.

Richard Tilton:

That's awesome. Yeah. We figured it was six hours into our hunt.

Bill Ayer:

Yeah. That's awesome. Good job, man. Congratulations. That sounds like an awesome time, and congratulations to Tommy and Jesse too, you know? Because I know they put a lot of work into that.

Richard Tilton:

A lot of work.

Bill Ayer:

[inaudible 00:22:30]. It's a great job.

Richard Tilton:

Couldn't have done it without those guys, that's for sure.

Bill Ayer:

Cool. How was the hike out? So you had to go a thousand feet back up and then 500 feet back down the other side?

Richard Tilton:

No. So we actually, we ended up hiking to the bottom. We hunted it out. Just because one guy gets a bull, doesn't mean we're done for the day. And so, we kept on bugling, and we bugled bulls all day long.

Bill Ayer:

Oh, down through the bottom?

Richard Tilton:

All the way to the bottom and out man. So we went to the bottom and there's a trail head at the bottom. And then it's another, I think six miles out after that. Yeah. And so, we actually, we went two miles and then hit a Creek. And I mean, before we even hit the trail head, we were in headlamps. It was pretty dark by that point. But we got down the last four miles, we actually dumped the meat and next to the creek. Hung it up and everything. And we made sure it was a nice cool spot. And we kind of hiked out in the dark without the bull. And then the next day Tommy and Jesse, they went up again kind of in the same area, just a different ridge I guess.

Richard Tilton:

And so, I actually went in by myself to hike the bull out, and they were going to bring it out with them, but I was like, nah, I'll go in there and get it. So actually on my way out, they were on the bikes and they came out, they saw me hiking it, they kind of took the rest of the meat and everything. And so, I just went back and ended up hiking the head out the four miles, but they got to the meat out for me, which was really cool.

Bill Ayer:

That's an awesome story. And so, is that your second bull?

Richard Tilton:

Yeah, second bull with my bow.

Bill Ayer:

I mean he was a four by four or five by five?

Richard Tilton:

Four by four is what do he ended up being.

Bill Ayer:

Okay. He was a nice bull. I remember seeing the picture you guys sent over.

Richard Tilton:

Yeah. He had really good genetics are up there. Yeah, I couldn't ask for a better time, a better bull, and better friends. It was a highlight of my year, that's for sure.

Bill Ayer:

That's cool. And yeah, Jesse is one heck a guy. I goose hunted with Josh, right? I always want to call him Josh, it's Tommy. I don't know why I was going to Josh, but Tommy, I've goose hunted with him once and he's a super nice guy too, but I've got to know Jesse, well over the past few years and there's probably not a better person on earth than he is. And I mean, he just wants to help people, which you don't find too much in hunters these days, right? Everybody wants to keep everything secret and keep it to themselves. And he's very, very helpful and always willing. Like he's always told me like, hey man, anytime you want to come hunting with us, just let me know. And I would love to, because I think there's, I mean, I don't think, I know there's a ton I can learn from him and the guys that he hunts with. You never get too old to keep learning.

Richard Tilton:

You never stop. Never stop.

Bill Ayer:

Well, awesome. I really appreciate you coming on and telling your story. Your story is so relevant to what we do. I think 4% of hunters in Idaho are successful counter tags. I mean, you guys are over the counter. You guys are hunting public land. I think 4% of us are successful every year. So, you're up in the elite group when you get kill bull.

Richard Tilton:

That's the goal, you know?

Bill Ayer:

Yeah.

Richard Tilton:

That's the goal.

Bill Ayer:

So it enables the rest of us who didn't get a bull to vicariously live through your guys' stories. So I appreciate you coming on and telling that.

Richard Tilton:

No, thank you.

Bill Ayer:

We had a lot of close encounters this year, one with a really big bull, a 350, 360 class bull.

Richard Tilton:

Nice.

Bill Ayer:

And just could not get him to come in, his cows kept walking one way, he kept wanting to come in on us and every time he would, his cows would get too far away and he'd turn and kind of go back with them. So, it was one of those deals most of our season, but yeah, so awesome to hear your success and know you put one on the ground, which is very cool.

Bill Ayer:

Well, awesome Richard. We appreciate it. Anything else you wanted to say?

Richard Tilton:

Nah, about it, man. That's all I got.

Bill Ayer:

All right. Well, thanks for joining the Slayer podcast, and I'm looking forward to hearing more stories about the Slayer bugle tube and you killing bulls. Next year, it's got to be a five point or better.

Richard Tilton:

Absolutely. Thank you.

Bill Ayer:

Put the pressure on you. All right. Take care. Thanks.

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